Take one ZT260...

Add £6k and one Supercharger from Dreadnought...

Equals one ZT385

As I understand it, the 260 was really a proof of concept for the more powerful versions as much as a car in its own right, and it was always planned for the 385 to go into production at some point. As a result, all the running gear on the 260 is running at something like 50% of maximum load, and you can up the power to this level pretty much without changing the rest of the car

 

Isn't that bumper a mix of Mk1 and Mk2?

 

That'll be the Two-Sixties car of the month then! :MG:

http://www.two-sixties.com/cotm0706/

There was allegedly up to 12 made, mostly development cars. One is/was for sale at SMC

 

Would like to show the modern day equivelent of the 385,have the photographs,but cannot find the upload button to post up on the (260's first as promised)forums and then will grace the XPF (chris your a IT buff,what am I doing wrong??? ) Paul :beerchug

 

Guys the press releases of the time are here: http://www.xpower-mg.com/v8/

More here: http://www.xpower-mg.com/v8/mggallery.htm

I have a few more of the car in Post 1, I will add at some time. This car changed colour three times and actually started out as the one featured on this page: http://www.xpower-mg.com/v8/ZT500.htm

It now lives at the MGOC and is a pinky colour (its final colour change) - URGH!

NB: there was also a video of the car on that stage - think I've lost it (Post 1 picture).

 

Guys the press releases of the time are here: http://www.xpower-mg.com/v8/

More here: http://www.xpower-mg.com/v8/mggallery.htm

I have a few more of the car in Post 1, I will add at some time. This car changed colour three times and actually started out as the one featured on this page: http://www.xpower-mg.com/v8/ZT500.htm

It now lives at the MGOC and is a pinky colour (its final colour change) - URGH!

NB: there was also a video of the car on that stage - think I've lost it (Post 1 picture).

Car now owned and lives with MGOC,bonnet owned and now lives with me ,fitted and painted and looks like the dogs danglies.

 

I am sure i read somewhere that there was only ever 1 385 made

 

This is the car above the ZT500 in Green, which changed colour to Blue (badged 385) and then Pink.

Other cars were built but not to the same Spec, I'm sure Rince will list them for you.

 

Shame a car like that never saw the light of day as a production car! :sad:

Could well have been the modern day equivalent to the awesome lotus carlton! :beerchug

 

Would like to show the modern day equivelent of the 385,have the photographs,but cannot find the upload button to post up on the (260's first as promised)forums and then will grace the XPF (chris your a IT buff,what am I doing wrong??? ) Paul :beerchug

I've not tried putting images up on the two-sixties, but the easiest thing on here that I've found is just to use the gallery (green camera icon right at the top of the page) and just create yourself a gallery, put the images in it, and then tell people on here to go take a look

I'm sure there's a really clever way to put images into your messages, but I don't know how that works :sad:

 

I've not tried putting images up on the two-sixties, but the easiest thing on here that I've found is just to use the gallery (green camera icon right at the top of the page) and just create yourself a gallery, put the images in it, and then tell people on here to go take a look

I'm sure there's a really clever way to put images into your messages, but I don't know how that works :sad:

Its pretty easy just enter your msg then scroll down to Manage attachments
Point it to the file or photo you wanna attach and hit the upload button.

 

Its pretty easy just enter your msg then scroll down to Manage attachments
Point it to the file or photo you wanna attach and hit the upload button.

Ah! I'll give that a try next time. I was trying to use the insert image icon up above the message text, but I have absolutely no idea how that works!

 

Some one has to make a ZT500 road car, that would be absolutly amazing!

 

Some one has to make a ZT500 road car, that would be absolutly amazing!

That's exactly what the MGOC are in the process of restoring to its former glory!

Probably not going to happen other than that though :sad: The main ingredient that the 500+ bhp cars seem to have in common is the 32v variant of the Mustang engine as a starting point rather than the "lowly" 16v version fitted to our 260s. The 32v engine is just bigger enough than the 16v for it to have caused all sorts of problems with cutting into the bulkhead and the like to fit it. Not so much of an issue for a race car like Dreadnought's when you don't have to worry about things like ICE, Climate Control and the rest!

I'm not sure of the exact base HP output of the 32v engine, but it is comfortably over 300bhp, so getting to 500bhp is far less of a challenge than it would be starting out from the 260bhp that we have.

Mind you, even the 260 can be supercharged up to 385bhp for about £6k - plus another £2k or so in return fuel costs to Scotland All the other components of the stock 260 are apparently comfortably able to handle that sort of power output. Start trying to get one up to 500bhp though, and I would assume it starts to be a different picture!

 

Base 32 valve is 300bhp.

Fitted to the SV - 320bhp.

Bored to 5.0litre and tuned for the SVR by SHM - 360bhp (advertised at 385)

Fitted to Dreadnoughts car - upto 520bhp! :beerchug

ZT500 at the MGOC - what engine is fitted now - the 2v SC or the 4v tuned motor?

 

Base 32 valve is 300bhp.

Fitted to the SV - 320bhp.

Bored to 5.0litre and tuned for the SVR by SHM - 360bhp (advertised at 385)

Fitted to Dreadnoughts car - upto 520bhp! :beerchug

ZT500 at the MGOC - what engine is fitted now - the 2v SC or the 4v tuned motor?

Apparently Dreadnought can now get significantly higher than 520 with the right fuel etc... I was told either 560 or 590, but can't remember which (slight beer interference from the time)

The MGOC car is running a supercharged 4v engine.

 

Apparently Dreadnought can now get significantly higher than 520 with the right fuel etc... I was told either 560 or 590, but can't remember which (slight beer interference from the time)

The MGOC car is running a supercharged 4v engine.

Yep, I have a stack of 114 RON at home for my 6R4 days (SUNOCO fuels). We spoke to Brian at FOS and he was very informative too. As we said at the time if you are spending £5k+ on your car you going to take it to someone who knows these engines and in the MG world - Dreadnought are these people.

Thought the MGOC didn't have that engine - believe to be trashed a good while ago. The other similar engine from the SV prototype made its way into the beautiful BLACK Belcar!

 

That'll be the Two-Sixties car of the month then! :MG:

http://www.two-sixties.com/cotm0706/

There was allegedly up to 12 made, mostly development cars. One is/was for sale at SMC

what is this SMC place???

Also Its a shame the 385 was never braught as a production car and Im knocked off my feat when somewhere on this site they were advertising an un-reg ZT 260 for just under 16K........WOW wot a bargin, I may only be 20 but I would get a loan out just to get one and put in storage working on it getting the power up until I can get insured on it!!!!!!

 

what is this SMC place???

www.smc-cars.co.uk . They bought shed loads of the old stock apparently. :MG:

 

I see SMC are still advertising this car and its dropped £5k too. Actaully to the price I offered months ago.

 

I see SMC are still advertising this car and its dropped £5k too. Actaully to the price I offered months ago.

Go for it! Partex the sv and nab the difference.

 

I see SMC are still advertising this car and its dropped £5k too. Actaully to the price I offered months ago.

I drove it a week ago & they still had it today when I collected my new ZT-T260.

It goes well, as you would imagine & is in excellent shape bar the odd scratch that any 5,500 mile car will have.

I have no idea why it hasn't sold yet. It is a piece of history as well as a damn fine car. I have chosen to go the Dreadnought s/c route as this "385" runs a Roush s/c and it's doubtful it makes 385bhp (felt more like 330-350 to me) whereas Dreadnought use a Kenne Bell s/c which I'm told builds power with revs and defo makes circa 400 with, I hope, a more exciting delivery. The Roush blower tails off & if you're a bit of a nutter, leaves you wanting more ....

I think it's bang on the money now + the salesman I dealt with said "everything is negotiable" dddc

 

If it was traeted to a new gearbox then it maybe OK. 5,500 miles of tyre kicking wannabees, that's 1000 miles more than when I drove it. No, it could be a liability!

My choice would be a ZT190, the engineering from the BMW days is sound unlike the not quite finished for sale 260's.

I dispute the bhp discussion as this engine makes the 385 claimed. See the graph on this page (engines fitted to SV's) http://www.mgsv-club.co.uk/SVS.htm

Plus, I don't know how you can decide by driving a car how much bhp it has - sorry to be pedantic.

Not withstanding if you are prepared to accept duff AC, then things could be different. I see the Americans sell AC afermarket packages for okd muscle cars so this could be the route to take.

 

Your right. My bhp idea is just an educated guess, but having driven a 367bhp C55 AMG Merc recently + various other semi-mental motors inc RS6 Avants, Masers with 400 etc, it certainly wasn't as quick as that.

We were 4-up though so who knows. Plus, of course, the installation in an SV would be different, wouldn't it?

 

Plus, I don't know how you can decide by driving a car how much bhp it has - sorry to be pedantic

Not always easy but after driving other cars with high power outputs, you do get a feel.

The same can be said for HGV's, too.