It was starting to get twitchy but that's because I had to ease off a bit
Wasn't worth the risk of ending up sliding into you
I think the limit of adhesion is probably about the same in terms of normal grip, but with a 4wd system you can pull yourself round a corner faster than you would be able to free-wheel through it.
There's been an interesting discussion on the Scoobynet bulletin board about "Not much real-life difference between cars" about this sort of thing - it shows that really you need ridiculous amounts of power (e.g. 500bhp Skyline, ZT385
) before you'll really notice a major difference over any car in the 180-250bhp (2wd) or 250-350bhp (4wd) range. It's more down to the driver and the risks they'll take.
Pricewise for my car - I imported it from Holland for £15.5k new (thanks to Dutch new car tax being 42% and UK being 17.5%) and then imported the Prodrive pack for £1250 from a Belgian dealer, then got it fitted at Scoobysport for £100. Good going I reckon
Regarding the new STi - 260bhp but 150kgs heavier than mine, so if it weren't for the 6-speeder in it I would be faster most of the time (ironically!). TT's are not really there in terms of handling etc.
To add more fuel, here's the power/weight and torque/weight ratios of the cars...
ZR 150bhp/tonne 126lbft/tonne
ZS 156bhp/tonne 160lbft/tonne
ZT 126bhp/tonne 124lbft/tonne
ZT385 (est) 255bhp/tonne 235lbft/tonne
Impreza PPP 206bhp/tonne 218lbft/tonne
I know 4wd knocks out a chunk of power due to drag, but even so - draw your own conclusions! (In other words we all want the 385
) Anyway I have no interest in turning this into a 'Scoobies are better/worse than MGs' thread as at the end of the day we all love our cars and that's all that matters.
Bridgestone RE010s are widely reckoned to be... shall we say... the lowest of tyres that you could fit to an Impreza! Most of us use Eagle F1s, Toyo Proxes T1-S, Falcons or Bridgestone SO-2 or SO-3 as they all suit the Scooby much better.
But enough Scoob stuff!
Just wanted to argue that in native form for both cars, the ZS180 isn't a Subaru eater but is very close - as Anthracite says, I was indeed very impressed by it when I test drove it, and although I can keep up with Steve fine on the roads, that's just because I've always followed him instead of the other way round
Seriously, great car the ZS, no two ways about it. Can't wait for the >>200bhp version to come out