ZS "Ultimate"

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Discussion Starter · Jan 11, 2002

Do we know the powerplant for this beast?

I've heard it's going to be a Turbocharged engine of 230bhp. The same powerplant is earmarked for the MG TF!

Or could it be a Supercharged motor or even a V6 with more cc's and some fancy tuning!

Help!

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Ex-Member

· #2 · Jan 17, 2002

when i was talking to a MG Rover sourse at the classic car show,he in a roundabout way lead me to believe it is a turbocharged V6.

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Discussion Starter · #3 · Feb 23, 2002

Notice the deathly hush at MGR!

Can't be long before we hear about this car and the ZR "ultimate" versions. I would guess that the production runs will be small though!

Questions, questions.

TF - turbo 4 pot.
ZR - turbo 4 pot.
ZS - blown V6
ZT - V8 in various specs.
X80??

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Discussion Starter · #4 · Mar 28, 2002

Do we know any more about this forth coming "Stealth" car? No rumours, nothing except to say that MG promised an "Ultimate" and a "Entry," "Core" and "Extreme" variation of each model.

Entry - ZS120
Core - ZS180
Ultimate - ZS230?? (which engine)???
EXtreme - EX260

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Flip

· #5 · Mar 31, 2002

The TF almost certainly will not be Turbo charged as you cannot get enough air to cool the engine as it is mid-engined, i expect The 'x-power' as it will probably be called will be supercharged producing around 220 horse power.

Also there is a supercharged Rover 200 at longbridge with a big bonnet vent and bonnet clips with some nice interior and big alloy wheels!!!

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Dave Harrison

· #6 · Mar 31, 2002

This car is being guarded to an almost hysterical degree, as a nice surprise is guaranteed to be foist upon the competition to give them all a nasty jolt whilst enjoying a summertime snooze. And we thought the others were trying to catch up. It is nigh on impossible to extract info! Flip is quite correct, however, in stating the heresay regarding the TF Extreme, as MGR have stated that radical sugery would be in order for the V6 to drop in.

But, as we all know, they have a habit of suprising us.......!

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Discussion Starter · #7 · Jun 11, 2002

Last post of the night!

Do these cars exist? My dealer laughed when I mentioned them to him. Marketing ploy that failed to materialise.:shake:

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MikeH

· #8 · Jun 11, 2002

Lets Hope so, I'm getting used to the 180 now, so will be ready for something with a bit more grunt next April when its time to change. [If not before

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2L V6 with a blower would do for a start

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Paul Flint

· #9 · Jun 11, 2002

There's No Smoke without fire. Hope it all comes to fruition.

Jim

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cerbman

· #10 · Jun 12, 2002

Perhaps they could put the engine in the ZT too for those who wouldn't want a Ford engined MG.

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180 Boy

· #11 · Jun 12, 2002

Turbo or Charger

I mentioned in an earlier thread that I was looking for more power for my ZS180, I had a nice conversation with BM racing. BM have already sold a couple of super charger units to @@@@@@~~####, our conversation then turned to the ZS180 and the difference between fitting a turbo or a charger.

To sum up our conversation,,,,,,

Fitting a turbo would cost less but the modifications involved are heavy.
Fitting a charger will cost more but it will be easier to fit.

All I can say is that @@@@@@~~#### have these units in mind for the ZS.

180 Boy

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MikeH

· #12 · Jun 12, 2002

Re: Turbo or Charger

180 boy said:
I mentioned in an earlier thread that I was looking for more power for my ZS180, I had a nice conversation with BM racing. BM have already sold a couple of super charger units to @@@@@@~~####, our conversation then turned to the ZS180 and the difference between fitting a turbo or a charger.

To sum up our conversation,,,,,,

Fitting a turbo would cost less but the modifications involved are heavy.
Fitting a charger will cost more but it will be easier to fit.

All I can say is that @@@@@@~~#### have these units in mind for the ZS.

180 Boy

Did they give any clues as to costs ?

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180 Boy

· #13 · Jun 13, 2002

Charger or Turbo ?

OK

Charger
£5000 (estimate only)
The only problem here is to find room in the engine bay and a path for the belt to run.
The power can be set to what ever you want “within reason”

Turbo
Sorry no price because there are to many variables,
Type of turbo
Loom
Lowering the compression
Type of head gasket
Inter cooling
Dump valve
The list goes on and on

With the charger you will achieve a constant power delivery through the range and keep the characteristics of the V6.

With the turbo you have the complication of fitting plus the possible lag factor.

I’m seriously considering the charger route, but just for information take a look at this site and give them a call.

Very interesting site

http://www.highpower.freeserve.co.uk/information.htm

180 Boy

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rimple

· #14 · Jun 24, 2002

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Ex-Member

· #15 · Jun 24, 2002

Rimple
you cant tease us like that,i wont load!

is it a RS Focus beater?

kev
btw what monster ford are you packing?

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rimple

· #16 · Jun 25, 2002

kev, i was trying to post a couple more pics of another 45 estate, this time in gold. The monster ford i run is quite well known, i will give you a couple of clues to see if you can guess:

its an escort cosworth
it holds a current world record
its got more than 500 hp (on an engine dyno, no bull poo!)
any ideas?

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Ex-Member

· #17 · Jun 25, 2002

How can you turbo the KV6???? You would need 2 turbo's, one per bank.

In my opinion, the only option is to slightly blow it with a supercharger. Then, as I have said elsewhere, there are all sorts of reliability implications unless massive changes are made with KV6 being a wet liner engine.

Matt.

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Ex-Member

· #18 · Jun 25, 2002

Rimple

If its street legal i reckon it could be this........

http://www.ukstreetracers.com/CarReyland.htm

but if its a track car then you could be gareth Lloyd!

hit or miss

kev

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rimple

· #19 · Jun 26, 2002

well done! spot on first time

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rimple

· #20 · Jun 26, 2002

matt, why would you need one turbo per bank on the KV6? You could mount one turbo on one side and run the other downpipe into the same turbo, it does actually work very well, i did this on a 2.9 sierra v6 years ago

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