MG & Rover - XPower Forums banner
1 - 20 of 37 Posts

·
True Brit
Joined
·
1,048 Posts
Discussion Starter · #1 ·
I think they will succeed, then if not protected, they will be bought, and knowing my luck it will be bleedin' Ford.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,708 Posts
MG-R will succeed, and in ten years time, they will still be at Longbridge!
Possibly they will re-aquire Gaydon R&D when F*** move all development work away from the UK, and Cowley will come back when *** send MINI production to Hungary.;)
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
5,419 Posts
I would hope MGR will be about for the next 10 years. The next two years will be the most important, bringing in to production the next generation of 25 and 45 cars.

They have gone the right way of doing things - Motorsport. Breeds reliability and success. Look what it did for Peugeot. They didn't have a fantastic range of cars in the early 80's. But when the pug 205 was winning rallies it changed their image overnight. The same can be said of MGR.

The only fly in the ointment is will MGR after recovery and profitablility be floated on the stock exchange. If this were the case then MGR could be leaving the door wide open for take over bids.

I firmly believe they make a fantastic range of cars. What they have produced in the last 23 months is far short of a miracle. I can't think of any other manufactuer which could match or even dream of matching their acheivements.

I feel they are a company going in the right direction. As long as they stick to that road then they will get my support.

Jim
 

·
the voice of reason!!!
Joined
·
12,407 Posts
They have already shown that they can survive, and prosper, after being written off by many.
The quality of their product is at least as good as any of their competitors and they next generation of the R25/45 will, hopefully, see them back where they belong - as market leaders.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,833 Posts
i have no doubt that MG Rover will be around in ten years time but i'm concerned about flurtations with far east companies.
It seems the thing at the moment to do a "dyson" and move production where you can pay someone 75% less than a british worker.
In ten years i see the bread and butter cars like the ZR/ZS made abroad and only specialist cars like the rear drive ZT's and other exotica made here.
Last night on the news i was amazed to hear a goverment minister admit they put the jobs of rumanians before that of british workers (chorus),when our own goverment has this attitude is there any hope for the long term future of manufacturing in britain. :mad:
 

·
True Brit
Joined
·
1,048 Posts
Discussion Starter · #8 ·
All Western countries have the same problems though, most countries like ours with set up plants elsewhere. If you buy a Mickey Mouse toy is the USA you'll find it's made in China, it's the way the world is going.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,833 Posts
>it's the way the world is going.<
it well maybe but will i feel the same buying a MG made in China as opposed to this country.some people think its a crime that MG's are made at longbridge not abbingdon.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,833 Posts
>Fear not.
These are technical collaborations only. <
dave,that quote will go in the old memory bank ,will it come back to haunt you ;O)
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,708 Posts
Let it go in the memory bank!
OK, we will see various models appearing in showrooms soon, but these will be short-term fixes to gaps in the range. The TATA may well emerge with a 8v K series according to some, and be thouroughly revised and be built up in CAB2, but long term projects are in the pipeline for this sector. Any talk of MG-R switching production overseas is as ridiculous as it is malicious.
If U want firms taking advantage of cheap labour, then look at GM sending the Zafira to Thailand!
 

·
True Brit
Joined
·
1,048 Posts
Discussion Starter · #13 ·
Kev
"MG's are made at longbridge not abbingdon" people who think that are daft, do these people worry that not all Aston Martin's, Jaguar's and soon Rolls-Royce are not made in Newport Pagnell, Coventry and Crewe respectively? For me as long as MG-R stay here and UK owned, then I'm happy, don't forget even TVR have a factory abroad. And let's not forget that in the 60's BMC had factories in at least Australia and New Zealand, saves shipping.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
81 Posts
IF MGR persist with stupidity like badge enginerring vehicles from China Brilliance, Tata, Zil, Wartburg, Trabant or whoever then in 10 years time Mg and Rover will both be memories and Longbridge will be a housing estate.

If they develop partnerships with companies like China Brilliance to allow them to share tooling costs by licensing MG Rover designs and engineering then they will be successful. I think every other car manufacturer has realised that INTERNAL badge engineering might work, but slapping your name on someone else's product is the fastest way to bankruptcy.

As for putting an 8 valve K series engine in the Indica WHY? Why use the 8 valver? The car's low tech enough already without resurrecting the low tech version of the K series in an attempt to bring it up to date.

The Indica is a sensless option for a number of reasons.

1) Customers know it's not a Rover but an Indian car assembled in the UK

2) Customers know it's a cheaply designed and produced car (costing less to engineer than any car ever in history before according to Tata)

3) Customers will expect it to be priced accordingly - ie pretty much the cheapest car on the market

4) If it's not practically given away it won't sell

5) If it is practicaly given away then MG Rover can kiss goodbye to selling all their more expensive cars and expect to become known as a bottom end manufacturer.

All of these lead to only one final result for MG Rover and that is complete failure.

READ MY LIPS MG ROVER - DON"T DO IT!
 
G

·
Some negative stuff curently doing the rounds on MGR! Is it really looking as bad as reported (see Guardian report)?

What's happening; are the board members really trying to piss the work force off?

Will we be here in 10 years?
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,708 Posts
We will. And enjoying the cars.
There has got to be a bit more give and take from both sides over the banked hours bit, but personally i can't see the majority voting 2 strike. As pointless an exercise as the ST170, Eh?
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,708 Posts
<<BMC had factories in at least Australia and New Zealand, saves shipping.>>

Australia (Zetland, Sydney)
Norway (Assembled Marinas from Kits)
Portugal (Ditto)
Belgium (Senneffe-toward the end of the 70's the vast majority of Allegro's came from there)
Italy (Innocenti)

Not to mention smaller assembly projects in South Africa and South America.
 
1 - 20 of 37 Posts
Top