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Hey guys,

I have a couple of questions regarding a car I test drove today.
There was a few things that I was not happy about, the gear box crunched every time I changed from 2nd to 3rd. The other issue it had was that it appeared to have no change through the rev range but no rattle from the engine.

Is this normal to the ZS?

I probably won't go for the car as it hadn't been serviced for 32k miles nor had its cambelt been changed.
 

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I'm making a guess that it was a 180 you tested??!
Well first off if you do go for it get the cam belts changed asap really, budget atleast £550 for them.

The gears could be the clutch hydraulics failing, an all too common prob with these cars. There is a fix though, look out for the shreddist upgrade.

If the car was a 180 then the engine out put doesn't sound right, can't speak for the rest of the line up though.

Hope that helped a bit, have a look round the forum, lots of great info around!
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Thanks for the reply it was the 180 I drove. I have read that it should get a bootfull of torque at 4k rpm but it felt a little flat.

The interior and exterior was very well cared for it just felt the mechanics hadn't been looked after as well as they could. Plus the garage was asking near £2k.

On the plus side my wife really liked it as a family car just got to find the right one :)
 

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As for the way a 180 engine pulls? Flooring the peddle in second gear from just over tickover should give and instant surge in power up to around 4 k then provided the power valves are working from 4 k the revs will climb even faster as a second power surge comes in getting to the 6749 Rpm limitter a second or so later !! If the belts need doing and you have to use a garage then budget for £600 for the work!! If you can do it your self then it would be under £200 for the parts!! The clutch hydraulics or slave cylinder mounting bracket is often the cause of gear crunch but it's generally easy to fix once the fault has been found. A gearbox oil change with the correct MTF94 can often improve shift quality if everything on the clutch is ok!!
 

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Thanks for the reply it was the 180 I drove. I have read that it should get a bootfull of torque at 4k rpm but it felt a little flat.

The interior and exterior was very well cared for it just felt the mechanics hadn't been looked after as well as they could. Plus the garage was asking near £2k.

On the plus side my wife really liked it as a family car just got to find the right one :)
The price would depend on year and condition but 2K is to much for even a late MK1 180!! Good MK1's cared for by an enthusiast would be much less and likely be much better looked after ;)
 

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I would be wary of a 2nd to 3rd crunch as it could be the gearbox suffering from the car being thrashed hard. When I had my ZS180 I didn't hammer it that much but occasionally when I revved it hard in second and then went for a quick shift to third it would crunch slightly. It never got any worse but it was just a little sign the car didn't want to be driven quite as hard as that very often. Over time it could do damage.

You should have your pick of Mk1 cars at that price, there's always going to be one out there in better nick with FSH etc.
 

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If your getting a boot full of torque at 4k you vis isnt working correctly.
 

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Took a look at another car last night, 04 reg with 39k miles 2 owners. The interior looked very good and the rear seats looked as if they had never been used! Going to get my old man and his friend (whose a mechanic) to check it out for me.

Only downside was the belts haven't been done but I can haggle on the price with that in mind.
 

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Took a look at another car last night, 04 reg with 39k miles 2 owners. The interior looked very good and the rear seats looked as if they had never been used! Going to get my old man and his friend (whose a mechanic) to check it out for me.

Only downside was the belts haven't been done but I can haggle on the price with that in mind.
If your dads friend is a time served mechanic then see if he would do the belts? As for the vis system after fitting a new plenum to mine at the weekend I now get a boost in torque at 3200 ish and another at just over 4k so I guess my old plenum was nackered!!
 

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My plan would be to take it straight to my dads mates to be done as well as a full service.

Then off to my friends house for a full detail.
 

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The car won't have any "pull" if it's not been serviced for 32k!

It's clogged everything up surely!
 

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Off to take another look at the second car tomorrow and just had a thought about the cam belt. Unfortunately our mechanic friend does not have the specialist tools as he dosnt get a lot of kv6 engines in.

Having looked around Google we don't have that many mg specialists in Somerset, however we do have lots of land rover specialists. am I right inthinking its the same lump as the freelander?
 

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Off to take another look at the second car tomorrow and just had a thought about the cam belt. Unfortunately our mechanic friend does not have the specialist tools as he dosnt get a lot of kv6 engines in.

Having looked around Google we don't have that many mg specialists in Somerset, however we do have lots of land rover specialists. am I right inthinking its the same lump as the freelander?
Yes, it was used in the early Freelander, as was the 4 cylinder. You may still be able to hire the tools at a reasonable cost.
 
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