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My other laptop has got some nasty spyware.
Luckily ive backed everthing up, but whats the best way of getting shot of it?
Ive got anti virus but its not detected it :(
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I've used SpyBot Search and Destroy in the past . . there are others, just be careful you don't download on that has Spyware in it, no I'm not kidding.

You can get SpyBot Search and Destroy here: http://www.safer-networking.org/en/mirrors/index.html

there is also a Microsoft one that I have run, Windows Defender, you can get it here: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...-AFA4-F7F14E605A0D&displaylang=en&mg_id=10134
try Spybot: http://www.filehippo.com/download_spybot_search_destroy/

(in the time it took me to make my post Raptor suggests spybot too!)
Great minds think alike eh ? ;)

Be careful though, there are others out there that profess to be SpyBot . . . you give them your email address and you get loads of spam . . .
Thanks.

Its called Security Tool and has blocked everything!
Thanks.

Its called Security Tool and has blocked everything!
This is also supposed to remove it . . http://malwarebytes.org/
Use Combofix if all else fails, but exercise caution as it's a powerful piece of kit. Find a reputable combofix forum and follow the instructions to the letter. It's especially good at finding rootkit viruses that most AVs miss.
Also try Microsoft Security Essentials or SuperAntiSpyware
Thanks for all the replies.
Trouble is it blocks everything I try to install from these spyware sites :(
Luckily ive saved all my data so may have to just reinstall windows.
Thanks for all the replies.
Trouble is it blocks everything I try to install from these spyware sites :(
Luckily ive saved all my data so may have to just reinstall windows.
Seems a bit drastic reinstalling windows and chances are you could still be infected afterwards. See if you can download combofix.exe. It doesn't need installing it runs from the command prompt but it does need to access the internet so you can't run it from safe mode. Worth a go seeing as you're already resigned to reinstalling the OS.

I can email you the file if you can't download it for any reason. Whatever works.
Malwarebytes, if that doesn't shift it reinstall Windows. I've heard/seen good things of combofix but it's that involved I'd give it a miss unless you're an enthusiast.
Malwarebytes, if that doesn't shift it reinstall Windows. I've heard/seen good things of combofix but it's that involved I'd give it a miss unless you're an enthusiast.
It's automated. You just run the exe file from your desktop. Nothing to lose if he's already decided on the "nuclear option"!
I had this (or one similar) today. It was called Security Suite. God knows where it came from bit it was a a proper pain in the arse.

Had to get access to another laptop to download files onto a cd. Boot my laptop into safe mode with network access and then install and run malwarebytes (updating after installing). This did the trick!
Pretty much what I did aswell.
What kind of people make these virus's!
I had this (or one similar) today. It was called Security Suite. God knows where it came from bit it was a a proper pain in the arse.
Yeah, I think that's the one that keeps throwing up a fake security alert and blocks every website you try to access. I cleaned it out but afterward something kept hijacking my browser and redirecting it to an attack site. Don't know if it was related to the same infection but I'd keep on eye it. Took me weeks to sort it out.
Pretty much what I did aswell.
What kind of people make these virus's!
sociopaths.
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I have Kapersky on a 2004 2.0GHz HP Pavillion and an 2009 Acer Dual Core 2.1GHz both running XP Pro from a clean original install (i.e. not the manufacturers disc). I also set regular restore points before I install anything and 'auto' update is OFF. I haven't had any problems this year on either PC so far although I've noticed an awful lot of patches for Windows, Explorer and Flash.

I have to take up this point though......

sociopaths.
I'm not so sure. Been installing computers since 1995 (Mac and PC) and you have to understand that there is a whole industry making a good living out of this including Microsoft (certified technician programme/commercial updates/support), Norton, Kapersky and others. I cannot help thinking that these people are either complicit or they are at least not taking a pro-active stance to 'mend' Windows effectively.

Windows 7 still has some DOS routines at its core and the system is inherently weak in terms of security due, amongst other things, to a reliance on the registry and Internet Explorer which I think has been patched 20 or so times this year. Unix, on the other hand, was built as a multi user platform from the outset and any attempted change to a system level setting is prohibited - it has never been hacked without a root level admin password. Safari (web browser on Mac) effectively works within a sandbox - it can be crashed deliberately but it cannot be used to hack the OS.

If you look at what happened on Mac when they went to Unix around 2000 - Norton was one of the most popular Apple purchases for protection, maintenance and optimisation i.e. everyone bought Norton who ran a Mac. Unix does all this itself and...... Norton is now dead on the Mac and withdrawn from the platform (as is all the other virus/protection software) because frankly it is redundant. The problems on Windows are keeping Norton and others in business.

Whilst there may be the odd fruit-case sociopath who believes in fame by destruction, I think that this is a myth supported by the mainstream. I know (of) some of these people and the vast majority are NOT black but rather white... i.e. they do not make malicious hacks. Gary McKinnon comes to mind - he just wanted to get into Nellis to see the UFO's and that is probably why they want him banged up - because he began to tell people what he had found including folders with before and after retouched NASA photos.

One of these people I know is ex military - his job was to sneak into enemy installations, put in a permanent hack and get out without them knowing anything - the enemy continue as if nothing has happened and we (West) can see everything they are doing. He is now retired and a commercial IT security bod but he still supports the community with his knowledge. Black hacking is frowned upon and will get you burned by the community, or at least marooned. It draws too much attention for one thing. McKinnon was COVERT for over 2 years across various military and university (used as cover for many NASA projects) networks and pretended to be a US Gov IT technician with a remote connection whenever someone logged on and asked him why he was connected to their PC. But he never left any damage and that is the point.

The main source of malicious attacks is much more likely to be from Latvia, Russia mob, India and possibly North Africa - they would be after your personal/bank details so that they can rob you. The banks are getting hammered and covering it up to save face but that is another story for another night.

It's been suggested that Russia/China or a similarly diametric region might try to kill Windows on mass with a virus to disrupt and basically knack up everyone, the economy and infrastructure but this is unlikely for many reasons, not least the fact that they trade and invest in the West and that would kill them as well. Ditto the powerful oil states. Libya, Irac and Kim Jong IL haven't really got the where with all.

You have to ask yourself the questions a professional investigator would - who has the motive, the opportunity and stands to gain the most. For me the most likely answer is Microsoft themselves and all of the companies that feed off repairing and maintaining Windows for their living.

Think about it..... MSoft are worth $42 billion dollars and they cannot fix Windows. Even after 20 years. It just does not add up. Or maybe it does....


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